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	<itunes:summary>The place where all us football fans get together to talk NFL</itunes:summary>
	<itunes:author>Adam Glass, Ryan Jones</itunes:author>
	<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
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		<title>Episode 47 &#8211; Pre-Draft 2013</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Chiefs- OT Luke Joekel
2. Arizone Cardinals (Trade up with Jags)- QB- Geno Smith
3. Raiders- DE- Dion Jordan
4. Eagles- OT- Chance Warwick
5. Lions- DT- Shariff Floyd
6. Browns- WR- Cordarelle Patterson
7. Jags (from Cards)- LB- Jarvis Jones
8. Bills- OT- Eric Fisher
9. Jets- DL- Barkaveous MIngo
10. Titans- CB- Dee Miliner
11. Chargers- LB- Manti Teo
12. Dolphins-  OL- Ezekial [...]<p><a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org/episode-47-predraft-2013/">Episode 47 &#8211; Pre-Draft 2013</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org">Fifth Down</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p dir="ltr">1. Chiefs- OT Luke Joekel</p>
<p dir="ltr">2. Arizone Cardinals (Trade up with Jags)- QB- Geno Smith</p>
<p dir="ltr">3. Raiders- DE- Dion Jordan</p>
<p dir="ltr">4. Eagles- OT- Chance Warwick</p>
<p dir="ltr">5. Lions- DT- Shariff Floyd</p>
<p dir="ltr">6. Browns- WR- Cordarelle Patterson</p>
<p dir="ltr">7. Jags (from Cards)- LB- Jarvis Jones</p>
<p dir="ltr">8. Bills- OT- Eric Fisher</p>
<p dir="ltr">9. Jets- DL- Barkaveous MIngo</p>
<p dir="ltr">10. Titans- CB- Dee Miliner</p>
<p dir="ltr">11. Chargers- LB- Manti Teo</p>
<p dir="ltr">12. Dolphins-  OL- Ezekial Ansah</p>
<p dir="ltr">13: Jets- WR- Tavon Austin</p>
<p dir="ltr">14. Panthers- DL- Star lotulelei</p>
<p dir="ltr">15. Saints- S- Eric Reid</p>
<p dir="ltr">16. Rams-WR- DeAndre Hopkins</p>
<p dir="ltr">17 Steelers- DL- bjoern werner</p>
<p dir="ltr">18. Cowboys- OL- Lane Johnson</p>
<p dir="ltr">19. Giants- DL- Sheldon RIchardson- he will help with the outside run defense</p>
<p dir="ltr">20. Bears- OL- Jonathon Cooper</p>
<p dir="ltr">21. Bengals- LB- Arthur Brown</p>
<p dir="ltr">22. Rams (from redskins) WR- Keenan Allen. drafting 2 wr in first round</p>
<p dir="ltr">23. Vikings- CB- Xavier Rhodes</p>
<p dir="ltr">24. Colts will trade down with Bills who will select QB- Ryan Nassib</p>
<p dir="ltr">25. Vikings- DL- Domantre Moore</p>
<p dir="ltr">26. Packers- LB- Alec Ogeltree</p>
<p dir="ltr">27. Texans- S- Kenny Vaccaro</p>
<p dir="ltr">28. Broncos will swap with Patriots who will select DT Jonathan Hawkins</p>
<p dir="ltr">29. Broncos DL- Datone Jones</p>
<p dir="ltr">30. Falcons- CB- Jonathan Banks</p>
<p dir="ltr">31. 49ers- Will trade down with Arizona who will select OL D.J. Fluker</p>
<p dir="ltr">32. Ravens- S Matt Elam</p>
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	<itunes:subtitle>1. Chiefs- OT Luke Joekel 2. Arizone Cardinals (Trade up with Jags)- QB- Geno Smith 3. Raiders- DE- Dion Jordan 4. Eagles- OT- Chance Warwick 5. Lions- DT- Shariff Floyd 6. Browns- WR- Cordarelle Patterson 7. Jags (from Cards)- LB- Jarvis Jones 8.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>1. Chiefs- OT Luke Joekel
2. Arizone Cardinals (Trade up with Jags)- QB- Geno Smith
3. Raiders- DE- Dion Jordan
4. Eagles- OT- Chance Warwick
5. Lions- DT- Shariff Floyd
6. Browns- WR- Cordarelle Patterson
7. Jags (from Cards)- LB- Jarvis Jones
8. Bills- OT- Eric Fisher
9. Jets- DL- Barkaveous MIngo
10. Titans- CB- Dee Miliner
11. Chargers- LB- Manti Teo
12. Dolphins-  OL- Ezekial Ansah
13: Jets- WR- Tavon Austin
14. Panthers- DL- Star lotulelei
15. Saints- S- Eric Reid
16. Rams-WR- DeAndre Hopkins
17 Steelers- DL- bjoern werner
18. Cowboys- OL- Lane Johnson
19. Giants- DL- Sheldon RIchardson- he will help with the outside run defense
20. Bears- OL- Jonathon Cooper
21. Bengals- LB- Arthur Brown
22. Rams (from redskins) WR- Keenan Allen. drafting 2 wr in first round
23. Vikings- CB- Xavier Rhodes
24. Colts will trade down with Bills who will select QB- Ryan Nassib
25. Vikings- DL- Domantre Moore
26. Packers- LB- Alec Ogeltree
27. Texans- S- Kenny Vaccaro
28. Broncos will swap with Patriots who will select DT Jonathan Hawkins
29. Broncos DL- Datone Jones
30. Falcons- CB- Jonathan Banks
31. 49ers- Will trade down with Arizona who will select OL D.J. Fluker
32. Ravens- S Matt Elam
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		<title>Episode 46 &#8211; No Mo Tuck Rule</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me preface this by saying a couple of words about Skip Bayless. He might not be the most likeable personality on tv or radio, not because of his attitude or tone or style, but because of his opinions. he isnt like Adam Schein or Stephen A Smith, or Mike Francessa where they make great points but they tend to do it in a badgering “my way or the highway” type of way. <p><a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org/departing-revis-island/">Episode 46 &#8211; No Mo Tuck Rule</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org">Fifth Down</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p dir="ltr">New Rules</p>
<p><b><b> </b></b></p>
<p dir="ltr">players in the open field can not lead with their helmet. (outside tackle box).15 yard penalty plus subsequent fine. Purely judgement call. Hard to identify in real time. Penalizes players for bending down to protect themselves. We are about to see a massive increase in broken collarbones, collapsed lungs, broken ribs, and oh by the way MORE CONCUSSSIONS!. A player who does not crouch to absorb a hit will get laid out Jadaveon Clowney style and potentially smack his head on the turf, hard! which in the winter, gets HARD! this is a ridiculous rule and I think will severely damage the sport. Better way to eliminate leading with the helmet for hitting purposes: do not make it a penalizeable offense, but if the tape indicates and intent to lead with the crown, a fine should be issues. If the head is lowered as a defensive precaution, no issue.</p>
<p><b><b> </b></b></p>
<p dir="ltr">the tuck rule is gone. If a player loses control of the ball in the act of “tucking” it, it will be ruled a fumble. This is the way it should have been, and potentially always was. If not for the “cinderella pot-9/11 season the PATRIOTS were having, this would never have been an issue. The vote passed 31-1 with the ROBERT KRAFT voting against it. Classy! That AFC title game and superbowl should have an asterisk next to it!</p>
<p><b><b> </b></b></p>
<p dir="ltr">The Jim Schwartz rule is implemented, eliminating the disconnect between a coach negating the ability to review a play because he throws a flag on an automatically reviewed play.</p>
<p><b><b> </b></b></p>
<p dir="ltr">the pro-bowl survives!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p dir="ltr">Rex Ryan will call defensive plays. the hits just keep on comn</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p dir="ltr">Free Agency</p>
<p dir="ltr">Who’s moved!</p>
<p dir="ltr">http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/transactions/free-agents</p>
<p><b><b> </b></b></p>
<p dir="ltr">whos still available:</p>
<p dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.nfl.com/freeagency">http://www.nfl.com/freeagency</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p dir="ltr">the Ravens</p>
<p dir="ltr">first the trade of Boldin to the 9ers for a 6th round pick. story surfaced that once the ravens decided they would not be retaiing Bolding, Harbaugh called Harbaugh and worked out the trade. team didnt let the market decide the price for boldin. didnt allow teams to negotiate and compete to trade for him. it was a back room deal between brothers, essentially handing jim a consolation prize and a “hope he helps you get one next year”</p>
<p><b><b> </b></b></p>
<p dir="ltr">next, the Ravens have lost Ellerbe, Lewis, Kruger, Pollard, Boldin, and now Ed Reed becomes the newest memeber of the Texans.</p>
<p><b><b> </b></b></p>
<p dir="ltr">I know its hard to repeat in the NFL, but are the Ravens even going to be competitive?</p>
<p><b><b> </b></b></p>
<p dir="ltr">Who do you have more trust in, Ozzie Newsome, or Jerry Reese?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p dir="ltr">Urlacher out.</p>
<p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._cities_with_teams_from_four_major_league_sports</p>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Let me preface this by saying a couple of words about Skip Bayless. He might not be the most likeable personality on tv or radio, not because of his attitude or tone or style, but because of his opinions. he isnt like Adam Schein or Stephen A Smith,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Let me preface this by saying a couple of words about Skip Bayless. He might not be the most likeable personality on tv or radio, not because of his attitude or tone or style, but because of his opinions. he isnt like Adam Schein or Stephen A Smith, or Mike Francessa where they make great points but they tend to do it in a badgering “my way or the highway” type of way.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Episode 45 &#8211; 2012 Year in Review</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[   Superbowl Wrap-Up Greg Roman called an awful game post-interception. Kaepernick looked nervous and uncomfortable, didnt get back into his rhythm until after the blackout and then the play calling was awful! they had great success running the ball and playing off the read-option and instead they went with basic routes that repeatedly didn’t [...]<p><a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org/episode-45-2012-year-review/">Episode 45 &#8211; 2012 Year in Review</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org">Fifth Down</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/SB47-logo.png#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-410" alt="SB47 logo 275x300 Episode 45   2012 Year in Review " src="http://www.thefifthdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/SB47-logo-275x300.png" width="275" height="300" title="Episode 45   2012 Year in Review " /></a>   Superbowl Wrap-Up Greg Roman called an awful game post-interception. Kaepernick looked nervous and uncomfortable, didnt get back into his rhythm until after the blackout and then the play calling was awful! they had great success running the ball and playing off the read-option and instead they went with basic routes that repeatedly didn’t work. Ravens game plan seemed balanced yet unpredictable. running attack with bernard pierce threw them off. some intermediate stuff, some deep stuff. Jacoby Jones with the deep catch and the ankle breaking moves plus the 108 yard return and still doesnt get mvp. Flacco did throw 3 td’s and make some critical big-boy throws. Jones robbed or justified? Flacco highest paid qb? Sick of Flacco/Eli comparisons. Does Flacco get the same money as Brady, Brees, Manning? younger than the 3, best playoff road win % ever, never missed playoffs, never 1 and done in playoffs, never injured, never missed a game. 11 tds to 0 int in this postseason. top 5 qb’s in the league: GO! Adam: Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Flacco, Ryan Ryan: Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Manning, Brees Worried as a giants fan? last week we discussed the amount of impending free agents and difficult cap decision the ravens were going to have to make, the giants seem to be in the same position, and they are wasting no time at all. Giants release Michael Boley, Chris Canti, and Ahmad Bradshaw. Martalius Bennet is a free agent. Terrell Thomas, coming off of 3 knee surgeries is a free agent. Osi is gone. Kenny Phillips may be cut. Hakeem Nicks is said to be the priority over Victor Cruz. Justin Tuck is a ? Faith in Jerry Reese, or these cuts a product of winning 2 championships in 5 years and the subesquent need to move on from most of the team. dissapointments of 2012 chiefs, eagles, giants, Bills, cardinals, jaguars, lions: all showed great promise before the season, all will be picking in the top 10 come april save for the giants. Cardinals started the season great, chiefs had 5 pro-bowlers. Lions were a playoff team, Eagles were stacked, Giants were defending champs. Who was the biggest dissapointment, who has the best chance to bounce back next year? big names coming on the market: Wes Welker, Calvin Pace, Reggie Bush, Shonn Greene, Rashad Mendenhall, Mike Wallace, Greg Jennings, Dwayne Bowe, Randy Moss, Dustin Keller, Fred Davis, Martellius Bennet, Richard Seymour, Dwight Freeney, Osi, Paul Kruger, Conner Barwin, Rey Maualuga, Brent Grimes, Aqib Talib, DRC, Ed Reed, Dashon Goldson. -notice what is not on my list? No QB’s. Best FA qb’s are Jason Campbell, Matt Moore, and Tavaris Jackson. Other notables that will become available after they are cut or traded: Alex Smith, Matt Flynn, Mike Vick, Calvin Pace, Darrell Revis or Antonio Cramartie, Laron Landry, Jason Jones, Kevin Kolb, Stephen Jackson, Michael Turner, Percy Harvi, Santana Moss, Kenny Phillips, Justin Tuck, Knowshon Moreno, Josh Cribbs. There are more but I think those are the best. 2013 predictions Lions release Titus Young (picked up by Rams), Saints hire Rob Ryan, http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1482116-calculating-2013-cap-space-for-every-nfl-team/page/4</p>
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			<itunes:keywords>ahmad bradshaw,bennet,canti,free agents,jacoby jones,jerry reese,justin tuck,michael boley,nicks,osi,ravens</itunes:keywords>
	<itunes:subtitle>  Superbowl Wrap-Up Greg Roman called an awful game post-interception. Kaepernick looked nervous and uncomfortable, didnt get back into his rhythm until after the blackout and then the play calling was awful!</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>  Superbowl Wrap-Up Greg Roman called an awful game post-interception. Kaepernick looked nervous and uncomfortable, didnt get back into his rhythm until after the blackout and then the play calling was awful! they had great success running the ball and playing off the read-option and instead they went with basic routes that repeatedly didn’t work. Ravens game plan seemed balanced yet unpredictable. running attack with bernard pierce threw them off. some intermediate stuff, some deep stuff. Jacoby Jones with the deep catch and the ankle breaking moves plus the 108 yard return and still doesnt get mvp. Flacco did throw 3 td’s and make some critical big-boy throws. Jones robbed or justified? Flacco highest paid qb? Sick of Flacco/Eli comparisons. Does Flacco get the same money as Brady, Brees, Manning? younger than the 3, best playoff road win % ever, never missed playoffs, never 1 and done in playoffs, never injured, never missed a game. 11 tds to 0 int in this postseason. top 5 qb’s in the league: GO! Adam: Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Flacco, Ryan Ryan: Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Manning, Brees Worried as a giants fan? last week we discussed the amount of impending free agents and difficult cap decision the ravens were going to have to make, the giants seem to be in the same position, and they are wasting no time at all. Giants release Michael Boley, Chris Canti, and Ahmad Bradshaw. Martalius Bennet is a free agent. Terrell Thomas, coming off of 3 knee surgeries is a free agent. Osi is gone. Kenny Phillips may be cut. Hakeem Nicks is said to be the priority over Victor Cruz. Justin Tuck is a ? Faith in Jerry Reese, or these cuts a product of winning 2 championships in 5 years and the subesquent need to move on from most of the team. dissapointments of 2012 chiefs, eagles, giants, Bills, cardinals, jaguars, lions: all showed great promise before the season, all will be picking in the top 10 come april save for the giants. Cardinals started the season great, chiefs had 5 pro-bowlers. Lions were a playoff team, Eagles were stacked, Giants were defending champs. Who was the biggest dissapointment, who has the best chance to bounce back next year? big names coming on the market: Wes Welker, Calvin Pace, Reggie Bush, Shonn Greene, Rashad Mendenhall, Mike Wallace, Greg Jennings, Dwayne Bowe, Randy Moss, Dustin Keller, Fred Davis, Martellius Bennet, Richard Seymour, Dwight Freeney, Osi, Paul Kruger, Conner Barwin, Rey Maualuga, Brent Grimes, Aqib Talib, DRC, Ed Reed, Dashon Goldson. -notice what is not on my list? No QB’s. Best FA qb’s are Jason Campbell, Matt Moore, and Tavaris Jackson. Other notables that will become available after they are cut or traded: Alex Smith, Matt Flynn, Mike Vick, Calvin Pace, Darrell Revis or Antonio Cramartie, Laron Landry, Jason Jones, Kevin Kolb, Stephen Jackson, Michael Turner, Percy Harvi, Santana Moss, Kenny Phillips, Justin Tuck, Knowshon Moreno, Josh Cribbs. There are more but I think those are the best. 2013 predictions Lions release Titus Young (picked up by Rams), Saints hire Rob Ryan, http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1482116-calculating-2013-cap-space-for-every-nfl-team/page/4</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Adam Glass, Ryan Jones</itunes:author>
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		<title>Episode 44 &#8211; Harbaugh v. Harbaugh</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Randy, who is suffering from Dan Marino syndrome except that he has played for multiple teams, is regarded as one of the greatest WR in the history of the game, but has never won a ring. While he is not a major contributor to the 49ers this year, he is still in a position to obtain that [...]<p><a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org/episode-44/">Episode 44 &#8211; Harbaugh v. Harbaugh</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org">Fifth Down</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy, who is suffering from Dan Marino syndrome except that he has played for multiple teams, is regarded as one of the greatest WR in the history of the game, but has never won a ring. While he is not a major contributor to the 49ers this year, he is still in a position to obtain that which has eluded him his entire career. However, between Ray Lewis, Flacco, Colin K, and the Har-Bowl, there hasn’t been much coverage of Moss. Moss himself, realizing this, put out some comments to stir the pot, claiming that he feels he is the best WR of all time, putting him above Jerry Rice. So lets compare the two.<br />
Jerry Rice played with 3 teams, 9ers, Raiders, Hawks. Played most of his career with Steve Young and Joe Montana, 2 HOF QB’s. He is #1 in all time receptions and Yards. 13 pro-bowls, 12 all-pro, 3 Superbowl rings, 2 time OPOTY, pro bowl and superbowl mvp. Played alongside T.O. for a great deal of time in san fran and alongside Tim Brown in Oakland. 2 future HOF players and 2 of the 8 who have over 1000 receptions. Moss, however, is still short of 1000 catches, played with Duante Cullpepper and Randle Cunningham, and Tom Brady for 3 years.<br />
The argument here is that did the fact that Rice benefit from having played with HOF QB’s AND FHOF WR’s, taking the double team pressure off of him, or did Moss benefit from being the true undisputed #1. Calvin is a true #1 and he is on pace to shatter Jerry Rice’s record. Does Moss have a case for being the best or is he just trying to get some of the spotlight.</p>
<p>Rob Ryan<br />
Fired unjustly by the Cowboys, thought he had Rams job locked up until they decided it was better to be stubborn than employed. Ryan lifes the 3-4, Rams have a 4-3 and felt strongly in their personnel. At this point in the off-season, there are few DC positions left. Saints maybe, but the Saints just fired Spagnolo, who was the Rams HC, and Greg Williams was hired by the Rams, so hes clearly a 4-3 guy, so the saints probably dont work. Does Rob-Ryan find employment as a coordinator.</p>
<p>Nfl honors<br />
opoty<br />
Aaron Rodgers<br />
AP<br />
Peyton Manning<br />
Calvin Johnson</p>
<p>dpoty<br />
JJ Watt<br />
Aldon Smith</p>
<p>mvp</p>
<p dir="ltr">Adrian Peterson</p>
<p>Peyton Manning</p>
<p>cpoty<br />
AP<br />
Peyton Manning</p>
<p>coy<br />
Harbaugh<br />
Shanahan<br />
Carroll<br />
Frazier<br />
Pagano/Arians</p>
<p>oroy<br />
Martin<br />
Griffin<br />
Luck<br />
Wilson</p>
<p>droy<br />
Luke Keuckly (led nfl in tackles, 3 fumbles recoveries, 1 sack,  2 picks, 8 batted passes.<br />
playing like jj watt as a LB<br />
janoris Jenkins</p>
<p>Ravens window closing<br />
-while they are going to have to pay flacco big money, somewhere around 16-17 million a year, they are over the cap, with big decisions to make. Boldin and Jacoby Jones contracts are not guaranteed and would free up 9 mill in cap space if cut. Paul Kruger, their best pass-rusher is also set to be a free-agent. Best case scenario is to sign flacco and tag kruger, but well see how accomodating Flacco is going to be. they have big time deals in place with ngata, webb, rice among others, torrey smith is due big money in a couple of years. With Lewis retiring, and Reed probably moving on, is this the last opportunity for the ravens to win, and if it is, is it worth tying up nearly 100 million dollars in joe flacco?</p>
<p>Ray Lewis<br />
Colin K<br />
Joe Flacco</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b id="internal-source-marker_0.810680347494781">ryan picks san fran 35-30</b></p>
<p>adam picks b-more  31-27</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Randy, who is suffering from Dan Marino syndrome except that he has played for multiple teams, is regarded as one of the greatest WR in the history of the game, but has never won a ring. While he is not a major contributor to the 49ers this year,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Randy, who is suffering from Dan Marino syndrome except that he has played for multiple teams, is regarded as one of the greatest WR in the history of the game, but has never won a ring. While he is not a major contributor to the 49ers this year, he is still in a position to obtain that which has eluded him his entire career. However, between Ray Lewis, Flacco, Colin K, and the Har-Bowl, there hasn’t been much coverage of Moss. Moss himself, realizing this, put out some comments to stir the pot, claiming that he feels he is the best WR of all time, putting him above Jerry Rice. So lets compare the two.
Jerry Rice played with 3 teams, 9ers, Raiders, Hawks. Played most of his career with Steve Young and Joe Montana, 2 HOF QB’s. He is #1 in all time receptions and Yards. 13 pro-bowls, 12 all-pro, 3 Superbowl rings, 2 time OPOTY, pro bowl and superbowl mvp. Played alongside T.O. for a great deal of time in san fran and alongside Tim Brown in Oakland. 2 future HOF players and 2 of the 8 who have over 1000 receptions. Moss, however, is still short of 1000 catches, played with Duante Cullpepper and Randle Cunningham, and Tom Brady for 3 years.
The argument here is that did the fact that Rice benefit from having played with HOF QB’s AND FHOF WR’s, taking the double team pressure off of him, or did Moss benefit from being the true undisputed #1. Calvin is a true #1 and he is on pace to shatter Jerry Rice’s record. Does Moss have a case for being the best or is he just trying to get some of the spotlight.

Rob Ryan
Fired unjustly by the Cowboys, thought he had Rams job locked up until they decided it was better to be stubborn than employed. Ryan lifes the 3-4, Rams have a 4-3 and felt strongly in their personnel. At this point in the off-season, there are few DC positions left. Saints maybe, but the Saints just fired Spagnolo, who was the Rams HC, and Greg Williams was hired by the Rams, so hes clearly a 4-3 guy, so the saints probably dont work. Does Rob-Ryan find employment as a coordinator.

Nfl honors
opoty
Aaron Rodgers
AP
Peyton Manning
Calvin Johnson

dpoty
JJ Watt
Aldon Smith

mvp
Adrian Peterson
Peyton Manning

cpoty
AP
Peyton Manning

coy
Harbaugh
Shanahan
Carroll
Frazier
Pagano/Arians

oroy
Martin
Griffin
Luck
Wilson

droy
Luke Keuckly (led nfl in tackles, 3 fumbles recoveries, 1 sack,  2 picks, 8 batted passes.
playing like jj watt as a LB
janoris Jenkins

Ravens window closing
-while they are going to have to pay flacco big money, somewhere around 16-17 million a year, they are over the cap, with big decisions to make. Boldin and Jacoby Jones contracts are not guaranteed and would free up 9 mill in cap space if cut. Paul Kruger, their best pass-rusher is also set to be a free-agent. Best case scenario is to sign flacco and tag kruger, but well see how accomodating Flacco is going to be. they have big time deals in place with ngata, webb, rice among others, torrey smith is due big money in a couple of years. With Lewis retiring, and Reed probably moving on, is this the last opportunity for the ravens to win, and if it is, is it worth tying up nearly 100 million dollars in joe flacco?

Ray Lewis
Colin K
Joe Flacco

 

ryan picks san fran 35-30

adam picks b-more  31-27

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		<itunes:author>Adam Glass, Ryan Jones</itunes:author>
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		<title>Episode 43- The Pro(ish)-Bowl</title>
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9ers audibles, alex smith vs
Ravens/ Pats
Harbaugh v. Harbaugh
Fire Cam Cameron while in first place, hope that Jim Caldwell, who has never called plays can take over seamlessly. Struggles at first, but executes in playoffs (sorta)
Pull Alex Smith, with the 3rd highest passer rating in the league for a second round guy. This a year [...]<p><a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org/episode-proishbowl/">Episode 43- The Pro(ish)-Bowl</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org">Fifth Down</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9ers/ Falcons<br />
9ers audibles, alex smith vs</p>
<p>Ravens/ Pats</p>
<p>Harbaugh v. Harbaugh<br />
Fire Cam Cameron while in first place, hope that Jim Caldwell, who has never called plays can take over seamlessly. Struggles at first, but executes in playoffs (sorta)<br />
Pull Alex Smith, with the 3rd highest passer rating in the league for a second round guy. This a year after committing and praising Alex Smith.<br />
Fair or Foul?</p>
<p>The Pro-Bowl<br />
-Who cares? Most of the players voted to it initially don’t even play. The biggest stars don’t care about the money because they already make millions. Its a full-pad game of touch football.<br />
-but&#8230;.it is somehow the most watched all-star game among the 4 major sports, even though the Baseball all-star game actually means something, and the NBA all-star game is immensely entertaining.<br />
By Goodell addressing it throughout the year, and threatening to cancel it because of how bad it has become, he has actually boosted the rating, as more people want to watch the train wreck.</p>
<p>Brady/Bellichek<br />
Is the regular season success enough?<br />
Since winning 3 Superbowls with the help of the tuck rule, Vinatieri&#8217;s leg, and a defense that included Tedy Bruschi, Mike Vrabel, Richard Seymour and Rod Woodson among others, the Pats have won their division 7 out of 8 years, yet are 8-7 in the playoffs including 2 Superbowl losses. Brady is now 35, past his prime and his biggest security blanket Wes Welker will NOT be back next year, and the Gronk is becoming a liability regarding injury. Belichek is the longest tenured head coach, and one that is defensive minded, has not been able to rebuild a stout defense since losing his main guys, despite former DROY Jerod Mayo and countless high round defensive draft picks such as Brandon Spikes, Devin McCourtey, Brandon Merriweather, Patrick Chung, Dont’a Hightower, Chandler Jones.</p>
<p>Tim Brown et al vs. Bill Callahan.<br />
Everybody is basically backing up Tim Brown (except Tim Brown at this point). Callahan is putting the blame on Barret Robbins. What people are not talking about however, is the impact on the subsequent life of Barret Robbins. After he disappeared, his life completely spiraled out of control. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barret_Robbins">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barret_Robbins</a></p>
<p>More trouble in Jerry’s world<br />
Rob Ryan has been fired, replaced by 72 year old Monte Kiffin. Jason Garrett has his power stripped and given to Bill Callahan, who himself is under massive scrutiny. Romo is entering the final year of his contract, and Jay Ratliff, one of their few defensive stars, has been having off-field issues, including his DWI, and confrontations with Jerry Jones. What is it going to take for Jerry to hire a GM and just be an owner. Al Davis was a crazy owner/gm, but he at least was a football guy.</p>
<p>Next week we give our take on the NFL Awards and break down the big game!</p>
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	<itunes:subtitle>9ers/ Falcons 9ers audibles, alex smith vs - Ravens/ Pats - Harbaugh v. Harbaugh Fire Cam Cameron while in first place, hope that Jim Caldwell, who has never called plays can take over seamlessly. Struggles at first,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>9ers/ Falcons
9ers audibles, alex smith vs

Ravens/ Pats

Harbaugh v. Harbaugh
Fire Cam Cameron while in first place, hope that Jim Caldwell, who has never called plays can take over seamlessly. Struggles at first, but executes in playoffs (sorta)
Pull Alex Smith, with the 3rd highest passer rating in the league for a second round guy. This a year after committing and praising Alex Smith.
Fair or Foul?

The Pro-Bowl
-Who cares? Most of the players voted to it initially don’t even play. The biggest stars don’t care about the money because they already make millions. Its a full-pad game of touch football.
-but....it is somehow the most watched all-star game among the 4 major sports, even though the Baseball all-star game actually means something, and the NBA all-star game is immensely entertaining.
By Goodell addressing it throughout the year, and threatening to cancel it because of how bad it has become, he has actually boosted the rating, as more people want to watch the train wreck.

Brady/Bellichek
Is the regular season success enough?
Since winning 3 Superbowls with the help of the tuck rule, Vinatieri&#039;s leg, and a defense that included Tedy Bruschi, Mike Vrabel, Richard Seymour and Rod Woodson among others, the Pats have won their division 7 out of 8 years, yet are 8-7 in the playoffs including 2 Superbowl losses. Brady is now 35, past his prime and his biggest security blanket Wes Welker will NOT be back next year, and the Gronk is becoming a liability regarding injury. Belichek is the longest tenured head coach, and one that is defensive minded, has not been able to rebuild a stout defense since losing his main guys, despite former DROY Jerod Mayo and countless high round defensive draft picks such as Brandon Spikes, Devin McCourtey, Brandon Merriweather, Patrick Chung, Dont’a Hightower, Chandler Jones.

Tim Brown et al vs. Bill Callahan.
Everybody is basically backing up Tim Brown (except Tim Brown at this point). Callahan is putting the blame on Barret Robbins. What people are not talking about however, is the impact on the subsequent life of Barret Robbins. After he disappeared, his life completely spiraled out of control. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barret_Robbins

More trouble in Jerry’s world
Rob Ryan has been fired, replaced by 72 year old Monte Kiffin. Jason Garrett has his power stripped and given to Bill Callahan, who himself is under massive scrutiny. Romo is entering the final year of his contract, and Jay Ratliff, one of their few defensive stars, has been having off-field issues, including his DWI, and confrontations with Jerry Jones. What is it going to take for Jerry to hire a GM and just be an owner. Al Davis was a crazy owner/gm, but he at least was a football guy.

Next week we give our take on the NFL Awards and break down the big game!</itunes:summary>
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apology about last week, confused mike zimmer with mike mccoy
Chip Kelly
after commiting to remain at Oregon, he quietly becomes HC of Eagles. Mike Vick? Fast paced offense keeps defense on field longer. Aging DB’s in Asumaghu(cant spell his damn name), Rogers-Cromartie, DeMeco Ryans, etc. Offensive line issues with such a high powered offense. Dont see [...]<p><a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org/episode-42-4/">Episode 42 &#8211; And then there were 4</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org">Fifth Down</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retraction</p>
<p>apology about last week, confused mike zimmer with mike mccoy</p>
<p>Chip Kelly<br />
after commiting to remain at Oregon, he quietly becomes HC of Eagles. Mike Vick? Fast paced offense keeps defense on field longer. Aging DB’s in Asumaghu(cant spell his damn name), Rogers-Cromartie, DeMeco Ryans, etc. Offensive line issues with such a high powered offense. Dont see the fit.</p>
<p>How about the Giants? they now have to prepare for the Skins and RG3 AND Chip Kelly 4 games every year.</p>
<p>Marc Trestman new bears HC<br />
worked with Rich Gannon, Steve Young, Bernie Kosar, Jake Plummer among others. Bears are a team that needs a guy who can get the most out of a QB. Also has ties with Tim Tebow. There were reports that Tebow would head up to Montreal next season to work with Trestman and improve his mechanics. Does he end up in Chi-town? Trestman is coming off back-to-back CFL championships (which by NFL standards probably translates to a 9-7 record)</p>
<p>bruce arians becomes hc in arizona,<br />
tod bowles as DC,</p>
<p>Browns hire Rob Chudzinski<br />
Ray Horton as DC Norv Turner as OC</p>
<p>jags hire Gus Bradley from Seattle(dc)</p>
<p>Jets hire Idzik from Seattle, numbers guy, hire marty mornhinweg as OC from eagles<br />
with the lance armstrong story and the manti teo disaster, the spotlights has been off the circus that is the jets for a few days.</p>
<p>Mike McCoy<br />
becomes HC of divisional rival Chargers. looks to turn around Phillip Rivers. wsisenhunt as oc!<br />
McCoy OC of broncos since 2009, gave Kyle Orton the best years of his career, then was able to tailor the entire offense around tebow on the fly when orton struggled, then let peyton do his thing.</p>
<p>http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/01/18/broncos-new-offensive-coordinator-has-built-in-familiarity-with-manning/</p>
<p>down to 3 black head coaches. does it matter?<br />
3 def in RG3 and Cam and wilson, 1 maybe in Freeman, and 2 potential in Vick and Trevor Pryce in Oak<br />
67% of all players, but less than 10% of HC and QB</p>
<p>Kapernick<br />
set all types of records for rushing. amazing total yards, great numbers, great poise, the future!<br />
Who is more upset with the 9ers win, the Packers or Alex Smith?</p>
<p>Falcons 2 minute drive and Seattles fuck-up<br />
Seattle gets the ball at mid-field after a botched squib. and throws a short out route, then hail mary. they had time! throw it 15 yards and kick the field goal!</p>
<p>Broncos take a knee with 30 seconds and 2 time outs. The ravens just proved on the previous drive that anything can happen. Raheem more screwed up and the Ravens score on a deep bomb.<br />
Broncos subsequently fire DB’s coach, making his scapegoat for the Raheem Moore failure.</p>
<p>Ravens/Pats</p>
<p>Falcons/9ers</p>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Retraction - apology about last week, confused mike zimmer with mike mccoy - Chip Kelly after commiting to remain at Oregon, he quietly becomes HC of Eagles. Mike Vick? Fast paced offense keeps defense on field longer.</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Retraction

apology about last week, confused mike zimmer with mike mccoy

Chip Kelly
after commiting to remain at Oregon, he quietly becomes HC of Eagles. Mike Vick? Fast paced offense keeps defense on field longer. Aging DB’s in Asumaghu(cant spell his damn name), Rogers-Cromartie, DeMeco Ryans, etc. Offensive line issues with such a high powered offense. Dont see the fit.

How about the Giants? they now have to prepare for the Skins and RG3 AND Chip Kelly 4 games every year.

Marc Trestman new bears HC
worked with Rich Gannon, Steve Young, Bernie Kosar, Jake Plummer among others. Bears are a team that needs a guy who can get the most out of a QB. Also has ties with Tim Tebow. There were reports that Tebow would head up to Montreal next season to work with Trestman and improve his mechanics. Does he end up in Chi-town? Trestman is coming off back-to-back CFL championships (which by NFL standards probably translates to a 9-7 record)

bruce arians becomes hc in arizona,
tod bowles as DC,

Browns hire Rob Chudzinski
Ray Horton as DC Norv Turner as OC

jags hire Gus Bradley from Seattle(dc)

Jets hire Idzik from Seattle, numbers guy, hire marty mornhinweg as OC from eagles
with the lance armstrong story and the manti teo disaster, the spotlights has been off the circus that is the jets for a few days.

Mike McCoy
becomes HC of divisional rival Chargers. looks to turn around Phillip Rivers. wsisenhunt as oc!
McCoy OC of broncos since 2009, gave Kyle Orton the best years of his career, then was able to tailor the entire offense around tebow on the fly when orton struggled, then let peyton do his thing.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/01/18/broncos-new-offensive-coordinator-has-built-in-familiarity-with-manning/

down to 3 black head coaches. does it matter?
3 def in RG3 and Cam and wilson, 1 maybe in Freeman, and 2 potential in Vick and Trevor Pryce in Oak
67% of all players, but less than 10% of HC and QB

Kapernick
set all types of records for rushing. amazing total yards, great numbers, great poise, the future!
Who is more upset with the 9ers win, the Packers or Alex Smith?

Falcons 2 minute drive and Seattles fuck-up
Seattle gets the ball at mid-field after a botched squib. and throws a short out route, then hail mary. they had time! throw it 15 yards and kick the field goal!

Broncos take a knee with 30 seconds and 2 time outs. The ravens just proved on the previous drive that anything can happen. Raheem more screwed up and the Ravens score on a deep bomb.
Broncos subsequently fire DB’s coach, making his scapegoat for the Raheem Moore failure.

Ravens/Pats

Falcons/9ers</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Episode 41 &#8211; Jerry&#8217;s World</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are 2 weeks into the offseason for 20 teams and still plenty of vacancies around the league, and the number is growing!
Rob Ryan Fired
Mike Mularky ‘probably’ getting fired, BY HIS FORMER GM,
Jags hire Dave Caldwell, who was with the Falcons, the same place Mularky came from.
Arizona promotes Kleim, still interviewing HC candidates
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are 2 weeks into the offseason for 20 teams and still plenty of vacancies around the league, and the number is growing!<br />
Rob Ryan Fired<br />
Mike Mularky ‘probably’ getting fired, BY HIS FORMER GM,</p>
<p>Jags hire Dave Caldwell, who was with the Falcons, the same place Mularky came from.<br />
Arizona promotes Kleim, still interviewing HC candidates<br />
Panthers still have no GM<br />
Bears are creating a reality TV series to determine their next head coach, with some strange names in the mix: Mike Singletary?<br />
<a href="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/09/the-daily-coaching-g-m-vacancy-update/">http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/09/the-daily-coaching-g-m-vacancy-update/</a><br />
Brian Kelly interviews with the Eagles, didnt take him long after losing monday night.</p>
<p>Rex gets more power.</p>
<p>Wild Card Wrap-Up</p>
<p>Andy Reid-gets a promotion by getting fired. true he was a good coach for years, true he made it to multiple championship games, true he went to a superbowl. But he has always had a ton of talent, he has always had issues with his qb, mcnabb, vick. he made the decision to take an offensive coach and make him a DC in juan castillo. It failed and reid said it was his fault. Now he goes to KC, with plenty of talent, 5 pro-bowlers, the #1 pick, and COMPLETE CONTROL OF THE TEAM, from GM down.</p>
<p>Syracuse coach Doug Marone hired by Bills. WHY!?!? (coached ryan nassib who will be in draft this year and possible 1st rd pick, but not top 10</p>
<p>Texans/Bengals<br />
I was bored. Lack of offense all around. Texans fans should be very worried going into New England next week.<br />
OC Mike McCoy, coveted by multiple teams, had a terrible game plan. In the 3rd quarter the Bengals came out in a no-huddle, hurry-up offense and hit A.J. Green multiple times and __ a couple of times. It was working and they stopped. Poor game management. Dalton’s timing on the deep ball was off all game long! Plenty of seperation all night but poor execution</p>
<p>Vikings/Packers<br />
Vikings prove once again that having a COMPETENT back-up is neccessary. Joe Webb was incredibly uncomfortable. Did not appear to have grasp of offense, or proper throwing mechanics. a dozen passes hit the ground short of the receiver. Lack of chemistry is expected, lack of ability is inexcusable.<br />
Packers simply played an edge rush and kept AP up the middle the entire game and Rodgers checked down EVERYTHING. Dump off up the middle over and over again. YAC-City</p>
<p>ravens/colts<br />
have to root for ray lewis watching that intro. Ravens D played well, Bolding was on his game. But not much of Ray Rice, which has been typical of the Ravens all year.</p>
<p>Skins/Hawks</p>
<p>fed ex field<br />
Field conditions horrible. AP tore his ACL last year.<br />
RG3 issues, Clemonts, one of seattles best players and leading tackler gets hurt and is done for the season. Skins have the highest attendance and capacity in the league. They spend money like water on players. (haynesworth ring a bell) All they have invested in RG3 and they cant invest in good turf. Is this an isolated owner issue or should the league and/or union ensure proper playing conditions year round</p>
<p>RG3 injury vs. Cutler in 2010</p>
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	<itunes:subtitle>We are 2 weeks into the offseason for 20 teams and still plenty of vacancies around the league, and the number is growing! Rob Ryan Fired Mike Mularky ‘probably’ getting fired, BY HIS FORMER GM, - Jags hire Dave Caldwell, who was with the Falcons,</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>We are 2 weeks into the offseason for 20 teams and still plenty of vacancies around the league, and the number is growing!
Rob Ryan Fired
Mike Mularky ‘probably’ getting fired, BY HIS FORMER GM,

Jags hire Dave Caldwell, who was with the Falcons, the same place Mularky came from.
Arizona promotes Kleim, still interviewing HC candidates
Panthers still have no GM
Bears are creating a reality TV series to determine their next head coach, with some strange names in the mix: Mike Singletary?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/09/the-daily-coaching-g-m-vacancy-update/
Brian Kelly interviews with the Eagles, didnt take him long after losing monday night.

Rex gets more power.

Wild Card Wrap-Up

Andy Reid-gets a promotion by getting fired. true he was a good coach for years, true he made it to multiple championship games, true he went to a superbowl. But he has always had a ton of talent, he has always had issues with his qb, mcnabb, vick. he made the decision to take an offensive coach and make him a DC in juan castillo. It failed and reid said it was his fault. Now he goes to KC, with plenty of talent, 5 pro-bowlers, the #1 pick, and COMPLETE CONTROL OF THE TEAM, from GM down.

Syracuse coach Doug Marone hired by Bills. WHY!?!? (coached ryan nassib who will be in draft this year and possible 1st rd pick, but not top 10

Texans/Bengals
I was bored. Lack of offense all around. Texans fans should be very worried going into New England next week.
OC Mike McCoy, coveted by multiple teams, had a terrible game plan. In the 3rd quarter the Bengals came out in a no-huddle, hurry-up offense and hit A.J. Green multiple times and __ a couple of times. It was working and they stopped. Poor game management. Dalton’s timing on the deep ball was off all game long! Plenty of seperation all night but poor execution

Vikings/Packers
Vikings prove once again that having a COMPETENT back-up is neccessary. Joe Webb was incredibly uncomfortable. Did not appear to have grasp of offense, or proper throwing mechanics. a dozen passes hit the ground short of the receiver. Lack of chemistry is expected, lack of ability is inexcusable.
Packers simply played an edge rush and kept AP up the middle the entire game and Rodgers checked down EVERYTHING. Dump off up the middle over and over again. YAC-City

ravens/colts
have to root for ray lewis watching that intro. Ravens D played well, Bolding was on his game. But not much of Ray Rice, which has been typical of the Ravens all year.

Skins/Hawks

fed ex field
Field conditions horrible. AP tore his ACL last year.
RG3 issues, Clemonts, one of seattles best players and leading tackler gets hurt and is done for the season. Skins have the highest attendance and capacity in the league. They spend money like water on players. (haynesworth ring a bell) All they have invested in RG3 and they cant invest in good turf. Is this an isolated owner issue or should the league and/or union ensure proper playing conditions year round

RG3 injury vs. Cutler in 2010</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Episode 40 &#8211; The 9 Mikes!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fired:
Titans President
Andy Reid
Chan Gailey bills have new ownership in CEO Russ Brandon
Mike Tannenbaum et al
Panthers GM
Heckert and Shurmer
Cards GM and Wisenhunt
Lovie Smith
Romeo Crennell
Raiders OC Greg Knapp (I thought they were done with 1-and-dones)
To Be Fired:
Jason Garrett? Rob Ryan?
Ron Rivera?
Scott Pioli?
To Be Hired:
Ray Horton
Ken Wisenhunt
Chip Kelly
Andy Reid
9ers OC Greg Roman
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fired:<br />
Titans President<br />
Andy Reid<br />
Chan Gailey bills have new ownership in CEO Russ Brandon<br />
Mike Tannenbaum et al<br />
Panthers GM<br />
Heckert and Shurmer<br />
Cards GM and Wisenhunt<br />
Lovie Smith<br />
Romeo Crennell<br />
Raiders OC Greg Knapp (I thought they were done with 1-and-dones)</p>
<p>To Be Fired:<br />
Jason Garrett? Rob Ryan?<br />
Ron Rivera?<br />
Scott Pioli?</p>
<p>To Be Hired:<br />
Ray Horton<br />
Ken Wisenhunt<br />
Chip Kelly<br />
Andy Reid<br />
9ers OC Greg Roman<br />
Buccs OC Mike Sullivan? at the same time Shiano states that he has to evaluate Josh Freeman!<br />
Bill O’Brein (WHY) staying put!<br />
Josh McDaniels (WHY)<br />
Jon Gruden<br />
Mike McCoy<br />
Mike Zimmer<br />
Mike Holmgren!<br />
Jay Gruden<br />
Bruce Arians<br />
Wade Phillips?<br />
Pat Shurmer?<br />
Lovie Smith<br />
Mike Nolan<br />
Kyle Shanahan?<br />
Bill Cohwer? Eagles?<br />
Todd Haley (getting interview with cards) why!<br />
Norv Turner (OC)<br />
Packers OC Tom Clements (after only 1 season as OC)<br />
GM Tom Heckert<br />
GM Atl David Caldwell<br />
GM SF Tom Gamble<br />
GM ARI Steve Keim<br />
GM Marc Ross (Giants scouting director)<br />
GM Colts Tom Telesco<br />
GM Bill Polian<br />
Chris Ault as something! (Kaepernicks college coach and master of the Pistol formation)<br />
Sean Payton gets 5 year 38 million contract. Deserving? He knew about issues and didnt stop it, ultimately causing this disaster of a season.</p>
<p>Playoff Matchups: 6 of 12 playoff teams have 1st or 2nd year qbs. (Russell, Griffin, Luck, Dalton, Kaepernick, Ponder<br />
Imagine matchups:<br />
Colts/Broncos<br />
Colts/Redskins Superbowl<br />
Ravens/9ers Superbowl</p>
<p>Worst to first:<br />
Colts and Vikings started the season ranked 31 and 32 in power rankings, both made playoffs.</p>
<p>Megatron deal. Worth it for individual record, or mistake because the team stinks 7year 132</p>
<p>MVP? Rookie of the Year?<br />
A.P. vs. Manning<br />
Manning threw for over 4600 yards, 37 tds to 11 ints and had 2nd highest completion percentage in the league behind Alex Smith, highest for QB that started all 16 games., however, Matt Ryan, Tomy Romo, Stafford, Brees, and Brady all threw for more yards, Rodgers had the best td-int ration</p>
<p>Rookie of the year:<br />
Wilson, Luck, Griffin</p>
<p>Ray Lewis Retiring</p>
<p>9ers sign Billy Cundiff because David Akers is struggling. Really!!!</p>
<p>Mikes:<br />
Munchack<br />
Mularkey<br />
Tomlin<br />
Smith<br />
Shanahan</p>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Fired: Titans President Andy Reid Chan Gailey bills have new ownership in CEO Russ Brandon Mike Tannenbaum et al Panthers GM Heckert and Shurmer Cards GM and Wisenhunt Lovie Smith Romeo Crennell Raiders OC Greg Knapp (I thought they were done...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Fired:
Titans President
Andy Reid
Chan Gailey bills have new ownership in CEO Russ Brandon
Mike Tannenbaum et al
Panthers GM
Heckert and Shurmer
Cards GM and Wisenhunt
Lovie Smith
Romeo Crennell
Raiders OC Greg Knapp (I thought they were done with 1-and-dones)

To Be Fired:
Jason Garrett? Rob Ryan?
Ron Rivera?
Scott Pioli?

To Be Hired:
Ray Horton
Ken Wisenhunt
Chip Kelly
Andy Reid
9ers OC Greg Roman
Buccs OC Mike Sullivan? at the same time Shiano states that he has to evaluate Josh Freeman!
Bill O’Brein (WHY) staying put!
Josh McDaniels (WHY)
Jon Gruden
Mike McCoy
Mike Zimmer
Mike Holmgren!
Jay Gruden
Bruce Arians
Wade Phillips?
Pat Shurmer?
Lovie Smith
Mike Nolan
Kyle Shanahan?
Bill Cohwer? Eagles?
Todd Haley (getting interview with cards) why!
Norv Turner (OC)
Packers OC Tom Clements (after only 1 season as OC)
GM Tom Heckert
GM Atl David Caldwell
GM SF Tom Gamble
GM ARI Steve Keim
GM Marc Ross (Giants scouting director)
GM Colts Tom Telesco
GM Bill Polian
Chris Ault as something! (Kaepernicks college coach and master of the Pistol formation)
Sean Payton gets 5 year 38 million contract. Deserving? He knew about issues and didnt stop it, ultimately causing this disaster of a season.

Playoff Matchups: 6 of 12 playoff teams have 1st or 2nd year qbs. (Russell, Griffin, Luck, Dalton, Kaepernick, Ponder
Imagine matchups:
Colts/Broncos
Colts/Redskins Superbowl
Ravens/9ers Superbowl

Worst to first:
Colts and Vikings started the season ranked 31 and 32 in power rankings, both made playoffs.

Megatron deal. Worth it for individual record, or mistake because the team stinks 7year 132

MVP? Rookie of the Year?
A.P. vs. Manning
Manning threw for over 4600 yards, 37 tds to 11 ints and had 2nd highest completion percentage in the league behind Alex Smith, highest for QB that started all 16 games., however, Matt Ryan, Tomy Romo, Stafford, Brees, and Brady all threw for more yards, Rodgers had the best td-int ration

Rookie of the year:
Wilson, Luck, Griffin

Ray Lewis Retiring

9ers sign Billy Cundiff because David Akers is struggling. Really!!!

Mikes:
Munchack
Mularkey
Tomlin
Smith
Shanahan</itunes:summary>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanksgiving fiasco, Schwartz throws flags, negates challeng-ability of play. Worse move, schwartz throwing flag, or refs missing knee/elbow down!
Jets allow 21 pts in 52 seconds.
Kapernick vs. Alex Smith
Free Agent QB’s
-flacco (can they get a deal done)
-Vick
-Tebow
-Capernick or Smith?
-Ryan Fitz (Bills confirmed they will be drafting a QB)
-Skelton/Kolb
-Flynn?
-Cassell
-Moore
-Hasselbeck
-Draft? Geno Smith, Landry Jones, Matt Barkley
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanksgiving fiasco, Schwartz throws flags, negates challeng-ability of play. Worse move, schwartz throwing flag, or refs missing knee/elbow down!</p>
<p>Jets allow 21 pts in 52 seconds.</p>
<p>Kapernick vs. Alex Smith</p>
<p>Free Agent QB’s<br />
-flacco (can they get a deal done)<br />
-Vick<br />
-Tebow<br />
-Capernick or Smith?<br />
-Ryan Fitz (Bills confirmed they will be drafting a QB)<br />
-Skelton/Kolb<br />
-Flynn?<br />
-Cassell<br />
-Moore<br />
-Hasselbeck<br />
-Draft? Geno Smith, Landry Jones, Matt Barkley</p>
<p>Steelers are this years Bears. Shows the need for good QB Depth Chart. Charlie Batch should not still be on this team. Been there for years, keeps getting inserted because Ben keeps getting hurt, cant win a game. No arm strength. Only knows the system, cant play. Who should Start? Ben, Batch, Hoyer</p>
<p>Playoff Picture<br />
-Falcons won most of their games by 1 score or less. Browns lost most of their games by 1 score or less. Are Flacons legit or just beneficiaries of good 2-minute offense.</p>
<p>-Texans win past 2 games by getting lucky in OT. Jags took them to OT, Lions missed a FG in OT.</p>
<p>Jags win with Henne</p>
<p>Peyton the rest of the way. Since 2003 (when the colts started getting good) these are Peytons Cold weather games in December. The only team he beat was the Raiders. Lost every other one. Will playing in Denver the rest of the way hurt Peyton, home field advantage in AFC a disadvantage?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Peyton Manning in December in out door stadium</strong><br />
@Denver, lost<br />
@Seattle, lost<br />
@Oakland, won<br />
@Buf, lost<br />
@oak, won<br />
@NE, lost<br />
@Bal, lost</p>
<p>Jason Babin cut, wants to play for a contender, signed by the jags. oh well.</p>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Thanksgiving fiasco, Schwartz throws flags, negates challeng-ability of play. Worse move, schwartz throwing flag, or refs missing knee/elbow down! - Jets allow 21 pts in 52 seconds. - Kapernick vs. Alex Smith - Free Agent QB’s </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Thanksgiving fiasco, Schwartz throws flags, negates challeng-ability of play. Worse move, schwartz throwing flag, or refs missing knee/elbow down!

Jets allow 21 pts in 52 seconds.

Kapernick vs. Alex Smith

Free Agent QB’s
-flacco (can they get a deal done)
-Vick
-Tebow
-Capernick or Smith?
-Ryan Fitz (Bills confirmed they will be drafting a QB)
-Skelton/Kolb
-Flynn?
-Cassell
-Moore
-Hasselbeck
-Draft? Geno Smith, Landry Jones, Matt Barkley

Steelers are this years Bears. Shows the need for good QB Depth Chart. Charlie Batch should not still be on this team. Been there for years, keeps getting inserted because Ben keeps getting hurt, cant win a game. No arm strength. Only knows the system, cant play. Who should Start? Ben, Batch, Hoyer

Playoff Picture
-Falcons won most of their games by 1 score or less. Browns lost most of their games by 1 score or less. Are Flacons legit or just beneficiaries of good 2-minute offense.

-Texans win past 2 games by getting lucky in OT. Jags took them to OT, Lions missed a FG in OT.

Jags win with Henne

Peyton the rest of the way. Since 2003 (when the colts started getting good) these are Peytons Cold weather games in December. The only team he beat was the Raiders. Lost every other one. Will playing in Denver the rest of the way hurt Peyton, home field advantage in AFC a disadvantage?

 

Peyton Manning in December in out door stadium
@Denver, lost
@Seattle, lost
@Oakland, won
@Buf, lost
@oak, won
@NE, lost
@Bal, lost

Jason Babin cut, wants to play for a contender, signed by the jags. oh well.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Adam Glass, Ryan Jones</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>1:08:49</itunes:duration>
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		<title>Episode 38-The San Francisco Treat.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reid done in philly:
Foles dropped back 51 times in 31-6 loss. hardly any use of McCoy, but late in the 4th, He runs the ball and gets concussed. Why is he in the game! “trying to win” asshole!
Bellicheck gets some karmic justice
pats running up the scoreboard as usual, on the PAT for the 59th point [...]<p><a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org/episode-38the-san-francisco-treat/">Episode 38-The San Francisco Treat.</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.thefifthdown.org">Fifth Down</a></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Reid done in philly:</strong><br />
Foles dropped back 51 times in 31-6 loss. hardly any use of McCoy, but late in the 4th, He runs the ball and gets concussed. Why is he in the game! “trying to win” asshole!</p>
<p><strong>Bellicheck gets some karmic justice</strong><br />
pats running up the scoreboard as usual, on the PAT for the 59th point of the game, Gronk gets hurt and breaks arm. WHY IS HE IN THE GAME! pull starters, have some respect for your opponent.</p>
<p><strong>Battle of the Back-ups!</strong><br />
Kapernick vs. Campbell  CRAZY GAME BY THE 9ERS! Aldon Smith with 5.5 sacks, just abused the Bears O-Line. Can’t blame campbell. Bears can not win without Cutler,<br />
-who should start? Kapernick went OFF, played amazingly well, but lets not forget that the week before Alex got hurt, he went 18 for 19, a 94% completion percentage!</p>
<p><strong>Overtime Craziness!</strong><br />
Jags push the Texans to OT, Browns and Cowboys, TB and Car.<br />
-will Carolina consider trading Newton? new GM, def. new Coach. New direction?</p>
<p dir="ltr">-Browns improving. playing well this year, just can’t close games. 5 of their losses were by 1 score or less.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Jags are just awful, but got something going this week with Henne at the helm. Proves that Gabbert is a bust? Henne threw for 354 yards and 3 td’s with 0 int’s against Houston. Blackmon caught 7 balls for&#8230;drum roll&#8230;.236 yards!! are you fucking kidding me!</p>
<p dir="ltr">-Schaub had a career day with 527 yards passing and 5 tds.</p>
<p>Steelers bring back Plax, Sign Brian Hoyer. Starting Charlie Batch. Value of a good depth chart.</p>
<p>Jets lose, but get the W. played ok, but not great against the Rams. a team that has played decent, but is at the bottom of the nfl in W/L record. Winning just moves them down the draft order at this point.</p>
<p>Pasadena approves Rose Bowl to be temporary home to NFL team for UP TO FIVE YEARS while stadium is built. This is crap. No team should have to move to L.A. and occupy an old, outdated 92,000 seat stadium. New Stadium, new team!</p>
<p><strong>Plenty of QB’s coming available</strong><br />
-romo (1 more year left on deal with a HUGE cap number in 2013<br />
-flacco (can they get a deal done)<br />
-Vick<br />
-Tebow<br />
-Capernick or Smith?<br />
-Ryan Fitz (Bills confirmed they will be drafting a QB)<br />
-Skelton/Kolb<br />
-Flynn?<br />
-Cassell<br />
-Moore<br />
-Hasselbeck<br />
- oh and theres the draft! Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, Landry Jones, Tyler Wilson.</p>
<p>IRISH ARE #1!!!!!!! (Oregon should be 2, not Bama!)</p>
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	<itunes:subtitle>Reid done in philly: Foles dropped back 51 times in 31-6 loss. hardly any use of McCoy, but late in the 4th, He runs the ball and gets concussed. Why is he in the game! “trying to win” asshole! - Bellicheck gets some karmic justice </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Reid done in philly:
Foles dropped back 51 times in 31-6 loss. hardly any use of McCoy, but late in the 4th, He runs the ball and gets concussed. Why is he in the game! “trying to win” asshole!

Bellicheck gets some karmic justice
pats running up the scoreboard as usual, on the PAT for the 59th point of the game, Gronk gets hurt and breaks arm. WHY IS HE IN THE GAME! pull starters, have some respect for your opponent.

Battle of the Back-ups!
Kapernick vs. Campbell  CRAZY GAME BY THE 9ERS! Aldon Smith with 5.5 sacks, just abused the Bears O-Line. Can’t blame campbell. Bears can not win without Cutler,
-who should start? Kapernick went OFF, played amazingly well, but lets not forget that the week before Alex got hurt, he went 18 for 19, a 94% completion percentage!

Overtime Craziness!
Jags push the Texans to OT, Browns and Cowboys, TB and Car.
-will Carolina consider trading Newton? new GM, def. new Coach. New direction?
-Browns improving. playing well this year, just can’t close games. 5 of their losses were by 1 score or less.
Jags are just awful, but got something going this week with Henne at the helm. Proves that Gabbert is a bust? Henne threw for 354 yards and 3 td’s with 0 int’s against Houston. Blackmon caught 7 balls for...drum roll....236 yards!! are you fucking kidding me!
-Schaub had a career day with 527 yards passing and 5 tds.
Steelers bring back Plax, Sign Brian Hoyer. Starting Charlie Batch. Value of a good depth chart.

Jets lose, but get the W. played ok, but not great against the Rams. a team that has played decent, but is at the bottom of the nfl in W/L record. Winning just moves them down the draft order at this point.

Pasadena approves Rose Bowl to be temporary home to NFL team for UP TO FIVE YEARS while stadium is built. This is crap. No team should have to move to L.A. and occupy an old, outdated 92,000 seat stadium. New Stadium, new team!

Plenty of QB’s coming available
-romo (1 more year left on deal with a HUGE cap number in 2013
-flacco (can they get a deal done)
-Vick
-Tebow
-Capernick or Smith?
-Ryan Fitz (Bills confirmed they will be drafting a QB)
-Skelton/Kolb
-Flynn?
-Cassell
-Moore
-Hasselbeck
- oh and theres the draft! Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, Landry Jones, Tyler Wilson.

IRISH ARE #1!!!!!!! (Oregon should be 2, not Bama!)</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:author>Adam Glass, Ryan Jones</itunes:author>
		<itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit>
		<itunes:duration>1:13:09</itunes:duration>
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